Leaf Preference differences between small and large colonies!

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Leaf Preference differences between small and large colonies!

Post by Acromyrmexbob » Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:01 pm

So we accept here at Leaf Cutting HQ, that very large colonies will pretty much take anything that is offered to them. I cannot remember the last time we tried the biggest of our colonies on a new type of leaf and they refused them. However the same leaves offered to the small colonies will often be completely rejected. And its not a toughness thing either. Sometimes the leaves are clearly of a texture that should be attractive to all of the Leaf Cutters but the small ones dont take them.
I am sure this is down to appetite. Leaves in the wild are not a limited resource in general. Access to suitable leaves is fairly well guaranteed. But in captivity we feed the bigger colonies enough leaves to do them for a few hours and then, normally, they run out. So the big colonies are always hungry, looking for more. If we were to place an established favourite, like Privet, alongside one of these new leaves, I am sure the big colonies would not take the unpalatable leaves until the favoured ones were gone. So its a matter of putting up with the unpleasant taste because the fungus the big colonies have needs the food and the ants have to deliver. Small colonies can ironically afford to be picky because their fungus does not require the same volume of food so they can take small amounts or even not feed for a day or two until they come across something more suitable.
Good stuff that needs more formal investigation.

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Re: Leaf Preference differences between small and large colonies!

Post by Jackie62 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:44 am

Thanks Andrew, I'll certainly keep my opinions on this going as I'm trying all sorts at the moment. Our colony, as you know must be heading for 2,000,000 by now (or more?) they are extremely active.
I'm going to give the nettles a go today. At the moment they have privet hanging down like a tree, and pyrocantha as a bridge, plus rose, privet and apple on their forage platforms.

I've got to make the forage area 'pretty' tomorrow (orders from Les) as the university Governors are coming and will be visiting the ants display!!

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Re: Leaf Preference differences between small and large colonies!

Post by earthtiger » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:27 am

Jackie62 wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:44 am
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I'm going to give the nettles a go today.
And, what was their reaction?

My Atta cephalotes adore nettles - even it is still a quite small colony. How many liters of fungus does your 2.000.000 colony take care of


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Re: Leaf Preference differences between small and large colonies!

Post by Acromyrmexbob » Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:32 am

Jackie's colony is at Anglia Ruskin University. I think 2 million is possibly a high estimate. The rough guide is that a fungal garden the size of a rugby ball will account for around 10000 ants. So a colony of 2 million would need 200 rugby balls of fungus. The colony I excavated for the BBC documentary Planet Ants had around 150 fungus Gardens from memory, we billed that as 1 million ants.

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Post by earthtiger » Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:30 am

...I don't play rugby! ;-)

But can roughly imagine, how big it is.

150 fungus garden - sounds like a lot of digging!

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Post by Acromyrmexbob » Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:58 pm

2 days, 2 pints of blood and around 4 tons of soil later and we found the queen!!

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